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Foreclosed houses not an easy investment - The bargains aren't easy to find, and you have to know what you're doing.
By Steve Tytler, Herald Columnist

Question: With all the news about the foreclosure rate skyrocketing, it seems like it would be a good time to pick up some good deals for rental properties. Where can I learn about investing in foreclosures?
D. E., Renton

Answer: There are some truly extraordinary bargains to be found in the foreclosure market. But even with the number of foreclosures rising, it's much harder to find a real bargain than you might think. If you listen to the late-night TV real estate hucksters, you'd think that people in foreclosure are just waiting to give their house away for half of its fair market value. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Think about it for a minute. If you lost your job and fell behind on your mortgage payments, are you going to hand me the keys to your house just because I've shown up on your doorstep to save you from foreclosure? Probably not. Most people want to keep their homes, and in the vast majority of cases, they find a way to come up with enough money to head off the foreclosure auction.

Or, if they can't raise the money, they put their home up for sale through a real estate agent and attempt to recoup as much of their equity as possible before the house goes up for sale at a foreclosure auction.

Many years ago, I briefly dabbled in the foreclosure investing market. I found that some people would indeed offer to give me their houses for nothing down, but they were usually houses I didn't want to own. Not because they were in poor shape, or in a poor neighborhood, but because they were over- encumbered with debt. For example, a house with a fair market value of $450,000 might have a first mortgage balance of $375,000 including back payments, plus home equity loans and other liens totaling another $125,000. That's $500,000 of worth of debt on a $450,000 house.

That homeowner would love to hand that financial problem over to someone else, but it would be foolish for anyone to take title to the house prior to the foreclosure auction.

When the property comes up for auction "on the courthouse steps," if no one else bids against you, you could pick up that same house for only the $375,000 owed to the foreclosing lender. Any loans or liens that had been recorded after the mortgage in foreclosure are automatically wiped out once the property is sold at auction.

Picking up a $450,000 house for $375,000 might be a good buy, but there's a big catch: You have to pay cash at the auction. There's no time to apply for a mortgage and wait 30 days until closing. You must have cashier's checks in your pocket to cover the entire purchase price right there on the spot.

Needless to say, this weeds out a lot of competition. That's why foreclosure auctions are primarily a game for full-time investors who have access to huge amounts of cash on a moment's notice.

There are some bargains to be found in the three-month foreclosure period prior to the auction, but they are few and far between. You will probably have to analyze more than 100 properties before you find one that has enough equity left in it to make it a viable investment. Your individual investment goals will also play a large role in determining your success rate in this arena.

For example, investors looking for homes that can be purchased and resold for a quick profit must buy at least 30 percent to 40 percent below market value. Those deals are very tough to find, but it can be done if you have plenty of time and persistence. Investors looking for properties to hold as rentals may be willing to settle for buying only 10 percent to 20 percent below market value, which increases the odds that they will find a deal that makes sense. Most of the successful investors working in foreclosures do it as a full time occupation. It is very hard to analyze enough properties in your spare time to compete against them.

Finally, home buyers may be perfectly happy with a purchase price that is only 10 percent below market value because they are looking for a home to live in, not an investment. That greatly increases their chance of finding an acceptable house in the foreclosure market.

But be aware that foreclosure buying entails much more risk than buying retail. You must do a thorough title search to make sure there are no hidden loans or liens against the property that the seller has not disclosed to you. You also need to know all of the laws and regulations pertaining to the foreclosure process.

For novice investors, your best bet is to work with experienced investors who know the ropes. A few real estate agents in the Puget Sound area specialize in foreclosures.

If you want to learn the foreclosure market yourself, there are classes you can take locally at community colleges and adult education programs. You don't have to pay hundreds of dollars to a get-rich-quick guru. In fact, that is the worst place to get information.

There are also many books on the subject that can be purchased or checked out of the library. Before you buy any foreclosure books or courses, be sure to check out this Web site: www.johntreed.com/Reedgururating.html. The site is operated by longtime real estate expert John Reed, who rates all the so-called "gurus" and tells you who is legit and who is a fraud.

It's a great resource. As you will see on Reed's Web site, most of the so-called experts who promote high priced foreclosure seminars are not what they claim to be.

The bottom line is, foreclosures offer great bargain opportunities for persistent and patient home buyers and investors, but they are much, much harder to find than the real estate seminar gurus would have you believe. You have to hunt and hunt and hunt some more.

We are entering a very strong buyer's market for homes throughout the Puget Sound region, which means there are more sellers than buyers. You can drive a pretty hard bargain by just going through the normal process of buying a home listed for sale with a real estate agent. So you are probably better off shopping for a home that way rather than getting involved in the complex and risky game of foreclosure investors.

If you are not in a rush to buy a home, my advice is to wait until spring or summer, because there will be many more homes for sale at that time, and the sellers will be under more pressure to drop the price on their homes.

Mail your real estate questions to Steve Tytler, The Herald, P.O. Box 930, Everett, WA 98206 or e-mail him at economy@heraldnet.com.

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admin
2/17/2009 10:40:55 PM
Buying foreclosures - Competition is fierce and the rules are shifting.

Margaret Jackson, The Denver Post

Over the past four months, Jesse and Nanette Horn have been trying to buy their first home. They've made offers on five houses — some in foreclosure — but they're still looking. "We can't even get bids put on them before they're gone," Jesse Horn said. "Anything that's priced $100,000 or less is going within a week."

The couple started out looking in Lakewood, Arvada and Wheat Ridge, but found those homes to be out of their price range — and selling just as fast as those that were less expensive. They broadened their circle to include Aurora, Commerce City and Montbello. "We were going to put a bid in for $106,000 for a house that was listed at $99,000, but it already had a contract," said Jesse Horn, a supervisor in the Stapleton Home Depot's garden department. "We found one in Aurora that was priced at $69,000, but the Realtor told us we would have to go way above asking price to get our bid selected."

The foreclosure market may be equally frustrating for investors. Jan Pollard and his family set a goal to buy 10 houses out of foreclosure by the end of 2008. At the time, that was the most Fannie Mae would allow one entity to have a mortgage on. "Our plan was to buy distressed properties, rehab them for rent and then refinance them," Pollard said. "That would give us enough money to go buy the next house."

But Pollard was only able to buy four houses this year, with the last deal closing in July. He was getting outbid on nearly every home he tried for. "One house had been on the market for over six months and didn't have any bids on it," he said. "We put a bid in on it and all of a sudden it's got six bids on the same day. I'm thinking that's not possible."

In another instance, Pollard's investment group bid $60,000 for a property, but another buyer bid $60,050. "This happened not once, but I would say 10 times," Pollard said. "I know that these Realtors were sitting back waiting for someone to put in a legitimate bid then tell one of their buddies or investors or mother they had a legitimate bid."

Then, in August, Fannie Mae implemented new rules reducing the number of mortgages one person can have to four, including a personal mortgage. "We were dead in the water after that," Pollard said.

Part of the issue for both short sales and foreclosures is that lenders are overwhelmed by thousands of offers every day, said Mike Welk, a Your Castle broker who works with distressed properties. Many potential buyers think they can pay 50 cents on the dollar. "They're getting ridiculous offers, but they still have to process them," he said. "In that sense, I can understand why the process takes so long, but lenders should be hiring more people to cover that workload."


admin
8/26/2008 7:36:49 PM
INVESTORS MUST FOLLOW FORECLOSURE RULES

by Brad Carlson

Legitimate “foreclosure rescue” companies don’t attempt to get a distressed home’s deed, said Meridian-based attorney Lance Churchill, who teaches real estate investment and asset protection through his Frontline Seminars entity.

Idaho does not regulate foreclosure consultants specifically, he said. Foreclosure rescue is subject to Idaho’s consumer protection laws, and to some extent its credit repair laws depending on how a company advertises, he said. “If they are truly a foreclosure rescue company, the deed is never going to change,”

Churchill said. The rescue company will help the homeowners “solve the problem” through approaches such as modifying the loan, setting up a payment plan, or arranging “short” sale wherein the lender agrees to accept less than the amount owed. “They should merely act as negotiator for the homeowner, with the lender.”

One increasingly common approach – which sometimes is called “foreclosure rescue” but technically is not – involves investors, he said. The investor seeks out a homeowner who is in default or some stage of foreclosure. The homeowner transfers the deed to the investor, who tries to sell the home before the foreclosure is completed.

If the home sells, the investor takes any profit, the borrower gets whatever compensation agreed to at the outset, and the default or foreclosure process is stopped, Churchill said. But if the home does not sell, the foreclosure is completed in the name of the original owner, he said.

The party that holds the deed has the right to sell, but “transferring ownership does not eliminate liability for the loan,” he said. “All of it is pretty much legal, as long as it is disclosed and there has not been any misrepresentation,” Churchill said.

Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden and state Department of Finance Director Gavin Gee in mid-2007 jointly issued a warning about foreclosure-rescue schemes. Absent fraud or deceptive practices, Idaho law will not protect people from pitfalls such as giving up equity or overpaying to rent or repurchase the home, Wasden said in the release.

Gee recommended borrowers contact the lender as soon as they encounter trouble making their mortgage payment. While that process is underway, they should seek input from established organizations such as certain government agencies, legal assistance groups, and licensed credit counselors.

More investors now seek to acquire houses through a short sale for less than the amount owed, Churchill said. This gets the borrower out of the foreclosure process and the loan. The borrower may have tax liability on the forgiven debt, but a December 2007 federal law forgives that debt in most cases, if the home is the borrower’s personal residence, he said.

About half of home sales in California are short sales now, because of price declines and buyers’ heavy usage of 100 percent financing, Churchill said. In southwest Idaho, about 6 percent of total listings in Ada and Canyon counties are short – a percentage that will rise as long as prices are flat, he said - compared to less than 1 percent a year ago.

Real Estate Marketing owner-broker Patty Haney, based in Boise, a decade ago started specializing in marketing distressed properties. She sees an increase in the number of people offering courses on marketing, and investing in, distressed properties. She also sees an increase in the amount of misinformation disseminated on short sales.

“They think that all they have to do is get a party in default and ask the lender to take less,” Haney said. “So they submit low-ball offers to the lender.”

Now, lenders have so many short-sale proposals under consideration that it can take two to four months to analyze and process one, she said. “Most of the time the low-ball offers get kicked out. As a result, (borrowers) are out of time, and then the property goes through the foreclosure.” Some houses that could have been sold with appropriately priced short offers now instead

go through foreclosure, because of ramped-up investor activity over the last 18 months that inundated lenders, Haney said.



 

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